What does it take to leave a job you love, even when you know it’s no longer the right fit for your health? In today’s episode, we chat with Cat Cheng from New York—who you might know from Netflix’s Blue Ribbon Baking Championship—about her journey from being a music teacher to becoming a baker.
What does it take to leave a job you love, even when you know it’s no longer the right fit for your health? In today’s episode, we chat with Cat Cheng from New York—who you might know from Netflix’s "Blue Ribbon Baking Championship". Cat made the bold switch from being a music teacher to becoming a successful home baker and content creator. She opens up about the challenges of her career change, including how COVID-19 impacted her journey and the struggles she faced with narcolepsy. Cat also shares how essential support from her loved ones has been, what it’s like to find your identity beyond your career, and how competing on Netflix was a game changer. She’s got solid advice for anyone thinking about a career flip, emphasizing the power of community and self-acceptance in the creative process.
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put in my notice, I was so scared to do it, and then the second I did it, I felt so free and it wasn't because the job sucked. I loved the kids. I loved the people I worked with. It was just what I needed to do for my health. And all of a sudden it was like the world opened up. Welcome to the Career Flipper, a weekly podcast sharing career change stories from people across the globe in all sorts of industries.
We dive into how they made the leap from point A to point B and explore all the twists, turns, and. Surprises along the way. If you are thinking about switching careers, this is your chance to learn from their journeys. Consider this your permission slip to change your path. And I'm your host Jenny Dempsey, a career flipper myself.
After 18 years in customer service and tech startups, I got laid off and I turned to furniture flipping 'cause. Why not? Rescuing pieces were headed for the trash and giving them a new life. You can check out my makeovers over on San Diego Furniture Flipper on Instagram and TikTok, and I started this podcast because honestly, I felt super alone and kind of weird during my own career.
Flip. I mean, who really goes from. The tech startup world to cover, to paint and sawdust in their garage. So once I started talking to others who've also made career flips, I realized that I'm not alone. There's a lot of other people out there doing this, and we have a lot to learn from one another, and it showed me that it's never too late to change lanes in every conversation.
There really is something new to learn. My hope. Well, if these stories make me feel a little more confident and a little less alone, maybe they can do the same for you. And that's why the Career Flipper Podcast began to share these incredible stories and offer some real talk and support for anyone thinking about in the middle of, or have maybe already made their own career flow.
So quick update. Normally, if you've been following along for a while now, I release one episode a week, but starting this episode going through December with a little break for the holidays, of course, I'll be dropping two career flip episodes each week. Every Tuesday and Thursday, you'll get to meet career flippers from all over the world and hear their stories of how they decided to make changes in their lives.
So be sure to subscribe on your. Favorite podcast platform to stay up to date with every new story. Today's episode features Katchen from New York. You may know her from Netflix's Blue Ribbon Baking Championship. Kat went from being a music teacher to becoming a success. Fa Home baker and content creator.
She opens up about the challenges of her career switch, including how COVID impacted her path and the struggles she faces with narcolepsy. Kat shares how important support from her loved ones has been, what it's like finding an identity beyond your job and how competing. Was a game changer. She's got some solid advice for anyone thinking about a flip and highlights the power of community and self-acceptance in the creative process.
I'm so honored to have her here today and can't wait to share her story with you. Let's get into the episode now. Hi Kat. Thanks for being Hi. Thank you so much for having me. This is awesome. You know, it's, um, I found you watching the Netflix show, the Blue Ribbon Makeup, and I was just, my boyfriend and I and a Notebook White.
We all watched it together. We're just, we, we loved the show. It was super fun to watch, but like the things that you make, um, we were really into, especially though, what was it? The mango, uh, Tre Leches. Yeah, I was like, okay. That is my Jan, you're speaking my language. Thank you. Absolutely. So tell, tell everyone a little bit about you and, and what you're doing now and then I'd love to dive into your career flip 'cause you got a great story.
Thanks. Um, so my name is Kat. I'm 27. Yes. 27. I always forget, I feel like after 25, I'm like, I don't actually know. Yeah. Um, I live in New York, um, born and raised. Love being from New York. And, uh, currently I run a home bakery. Um, I sell, um, things from. My menu that I have on a website, but people will also order custom things a lot.
Um, and I also love making content. So I've been plugging away at social media for a few years and making YouTube videos for fun. And I also walk dogs for extra money and I love that. So that's kind of my jam right now. It's so fun. That is awesome. Well, you, you put out amazing content. You're making amazing.
Creations and just really showing up as a wonderful, kind human. And I How did you get to the baking? Let's, let's dive into the career flip. How did you get to this point? Cut. Well, my original career was orchestra director. I was a music teacher for a school, grades seven through 12. I was the only orchestra teacher and for basically my entire life, I have always loved music and I still do.
But I also felt for a really long time that that was the only thing I was good at, and I think I was really afraid to try anything that wasn't music, because at the time when I was growing up, I didn't know if I wanted to perform or if I wanted to teach for a little bit. And I felt like music was such a competitive field that if I spent any time trying something else.
I wasn't giving my all to music and then I would fail at music. So I really put all my eggs in one basket in that way. Um, and so I decided to become a music teacher for the stability, for my love of. Music and people. Um, I've also really loved to teach just tutoring and summer camps and stuff, so that was very familiar to me.
Um, and then I taught music, but in the second year of my teaching career, COVID hit and I had started baking before COVID because my favorite musical of all time is Waitress, the Sarah Baris musical, and I've seen it. Four or five times. Now it's not on Broadway anymore, unfortunately, otherwise I would be there again soon.
Um, but I was obsessed with Waitress and I also love the Great British Baking Show. I just binged all of it. Um, so I'm very excited for the new season coming out. And there came a point where I was like, man, I feel like I'm consuming a lot of baking content. And am I really gonna go my whole life without ever trying to bake once?
Like I should just try it. So the first thing I ever tried to bake was an apple pie. Don't know why I chose that over cookies or brownies or cupcakes. Apple pie is so hard, but it actually came out really well. And then I was like, oh my gosh. Wait, I should keep doing this. And soon enough I had this huge Pinterest board with all the different things I wanted to try and bake.
And whenever I got back from teaching, uh, at like three o'clock, I would immediately start baking and try new things and then. Over the next few months, I decided, okay, I wanna really get good at a, a handful of baked goods. So I'd practice, and then I'd have, I would have all of this left over, and then I'd post on Instagram saying, would anyone want these?
And then every time people would want them. And then a bunch of people said, Hey, maybe you should sell them. And I was like, me. Really? Oh wow. That's, that's really cool. Um, so I would say. I started baking before COVID, but you know, being at home because of COVID really helped me sharpen my skills, helped me try a lot of different things in terms of baking, and so as I realized that teaching wasn't really for me anymore, my love for baking kind of increased at the same time.
So I was very fortunate in that way that I was developing a new passion as. A former one started to die out. You know, I, I still love music and I still love teaching, but I think COVID was hard for everyone. It was really, really hard for teachers. Um, and something that I've spoken about pretty openly on my Instagram is that I have narcolepsy, and it took a lot of years to diagnose, but I felt like when I started teaching, it started getting worse.
And so I would just be going to work. Like a zombie, um, every day, seven 30 in the morning, immediately facing like a big room full of seventh graders with instruments and like needing to be on. And now that I run a home bakery and I am doing content creation, I can take a five minute nap while something's in the oven or, you know, lie down if I really need to.
If I have energy in the morning, I'll bake in the morning. Or if it's really late at night, I can work at night like. The flexibility is really something that I needed that teaching couldn't give me. Um, and so yeah, basically all of it kind of came to a head and my husband really encouraged me to leave teaching to just figure out what was sustainable for me.
Um, because as much as I loved. Teaching music, I needed a really drastic change in order to prioritize my health and my happiness. Um, so that's where I am. And I guess I'm on Netflix now. Wow. Well, thank you for sharing all that. It's to hear where things start. I find it fascinating, especially when they kind of creep in in ways where there were always, I call it cookie crumbs or bread crumbs in the past.
Mm-hmm. Like you mentioned waitress, or you mentioned all the clients that you're watching. There's shows like. There were these hints in the past and it takes this moment to kind of like, oh yeah, I actually really like that. Maybe I could do that. And the fact that you start, I made an apple pie. I mean, that is not easy.
I am not a baker, so, and I've tried apple pies and it is not always the best. So I understand like that takes a level of skill and creativity and also a lot of patience. But you just, you loved it and you dove right in. And so I'm curious about that moment when you're talking with your husband and he's encouraging you to take that leap in a way and to leave behind.
What you also mentioned in the past was the stability of a teaching job. And so what was that like when you kind of put in that notice and you made that decision, you're like, all right, I am doing this. And there might be a shift in things like stability or what You mentioned also the thing that you, you thought that this is all you were good at, you know, what was that like?
What was that kind of pivot moment for you? It's so clear to me like it happened yesterday, but I had been asked by work after taking basically a year long leave of absence, whether or not I would be coming back and I had a panic attack. I felt so physically sick. My husband David, best person in the world was just like, I really, really do not want you to make a decision out of fear.
I don't know if you can really see like how badly you're reacting to even the thought of going back and being so exhausted all the time, but. As someone that's not you, I can see it and I really do not want you to worry about money. Like I will figure it out like the number of hours that I'd have to work.
Like it would be worth seeing you healthy and figuring out what it is that you wanna do. And so even though I don't think that everyone needs a life partner, I'm very grateful for mine and I think. It really does take somebody that's not in your shoes, who's been around you to actually give you some perspective.
Um, so I'm very thankful for him. And I'm somebody who is like very conscious of money and so, you know, I've always been in like the hustle culture and I'm just like, man, I'm an adult. And if I don't make money then like, am I a real adult? Um, if I don't have like. A job with a boss and hours and like, you know, retirement money.
Like am I a real adult and I'm seeing all these other people and all my friends my age, like living a life that I thought that I would live. But over time I realized, okay, well they, they don't have the same health problems I do. They weren't, um, teaching in the same place. They don't have the same priorities as I do.
Like everyone's story is so different and so. I really had to figure out what I needed to do. For me. It's funny, my, my partner Dave, my boyfriend is also a David, so I just like, oh, so funny. Oh, love that. Hearing that and like the, the thing that you mentioned, someone else kind of looking in on the situation, especially when we're coming because I'm hearing you say that, I was like, oh, we are so similar.
Like, I only thought I was good at customer service in the tech world. Like I only thought that that's. What I was gonna do. I never really had this feeling of I have a choline or, you know, maybe there's something else. But I didn't think that applied to me. 'cause I thought I need to be the stable adult. I need to be the whatever this independent woman making my money.
And like the hustle culture is real and it took getting laid off and then kind of figuring things out. And especially like for, for Dave to look in and be like, this is, you know, you're doing really well at this. Like you're thriving. I got your back and being able to trust that that's okay. And I think coming from this place of like I, I thought I had to do it all and I thought I had to do it all on my own, even in a relationship.
And I'm like learning lessons about that in addition to all this other career change stuff and what worth is and how it's not just work, but how there's so much passion that we pour into it, that sometimes it becomes part of our identity whether we want it to or not. And, um, so where you're at with baking now, Kat, like how does that, like, how do you kind of lean into the identity part?
Because I know for myself, I'm, sometimes I get caught up. Like, I am the podcast host, I'm the furniture clipper. Like I'm creating these new ways, these new paths. I'm chopping down, you know, the weeds and the path. I'm carving it out. But I also am still kind of like figuring out like, but it's, I am still more than that.
Even though there's all these wonderful things. And so for you, how does that kind of blend in and now, you know, on the, on Netflix and, and all the attention that you're getting, how does that kind of lean into where you're at now with the identity piece? I really love that question and it reminds me of one of my favorite pieces of advice I ever got.
Um, and this was when I was in high school. I was talking to my calculus teacher. Um, he was so cool and. I don't know why our whole class was like hanging out outside. One day, I think we had finished the AP test and he was just talking about I for, this is bad, but I forgot what career he had before becoming a teacher.
And I was just picking his brain and asking what that was like. And he had said, you know, one day I realized that I can be so many different things in my life. And I think that really opened up my worldview. It really. Changed my perspective from one of like, okay, so in high school I need to pick a major, and then that's like the job that I have the rest of my life until I retire.
I'm only gonna teach in like probably one school until I die. Um, into actually like there's a world of possibilities out there. And so when I had left teaching, I put in my notice, I was so scared to do it. And then. The second I did it, I felt so free. And it wasn't because the job sucked. I loved the kids, I loved the people I worked with.
It was just what I needed to do for my health. And all of a sudden it was like the world opened up. And so I think, going back to your question about identity, I think I'm a lot more careful now about how I perceive myself and. Just in thinking about the kind of person I want to be and how I, not that I cared too much about like how people view me, but like what do I want people to take away from their time with me or interacting with me?
And I think for so much of my life, like everything was wrapped up in me being the music girl, the music teacher, like if somebody had a music question, they would talk to me about it. I just don't want to pigeonhole myself into that again, but like with baking now, and so love baking. Love talking about baking, but there's so much more to me and I think content creation.
For example, like ever since I was little, I loved making silly videos on the first cell phone I had and editing it together and, um. Like making funny videos on YouTube that no one will ever see now because I've removed them and they're really embarrassing. Um, yeah, I want my identity and what people to remember about me is hopefully my kindness and the way that I made them feel.
And not so much what I do because. I think my mistake and the trap that I was in before is making my identity about what I do and not who I believe I am. Powerful. I failed that. I feel that so much because it's, it's true. And I think it's also helped me look around at others like for example, beyond LinkedIn, like and seeing everyone posting about their jobs and that's all they're talking about, but like being able to look at that and know.
There's more behind that person. Whereas before I was just always comparing, oh, they got this job, or this job or this raise or whatever. And then putting that pressure on myself. And you said that the freedom, I was like, oh my gosh. I feel that there was this moment where I just, after like 350 job rejections, I just was like, I'm gonna stop.
I'm gonna stop applying to jobs and I'm gonna go all in on furniture flipping. And there was that sense of like, I thought that. It would be scary. And like 10 years ago that Jenny from 10 years ago was talking, she would've been freaking out. But like it felt so freeing and so hearing when you say that, I was like, Ooh, that just resonates.
It resonates. And we are, we can pour these things in to our lives and we can give so much of ourselves to them, but we are so much more, and I, how we show up and how we present ourselves to others and, and what we give, like, I love that. The kindness or you know, helping others or kind of with this, like I started this kind of as a way to give back and be like, maybe this will help one person.
And if it does, then that is my measurement of success and that means the world to me because it's helped me as well. And this reciprocal kind of like kindness, support, and love to give out into the world and to bring it right back to ourselves and. I love that you said that, and it's just, thanks. Yeah.
It's, it's powerful. And then, so something else that came in my mind of like, you know, you made this decision and you change. You're, you're doing the baking and you're doing amazing work and you're making people so happy with what you're baking and just showing up as your kind self. And then you decide to go on a, a global TV show, a competition nonetheless, and really put yourself out there and like, I mean, it really cements you into this, the, this isn't a dream, this isn't just some choice that you made.
Like this is the real deal. And I'm curious to hear how that decision went when you decided to go and do that and really make this. This is, this is you. This is your official next step. What was that like? So I think after I left teaching, it was several years of me feeling like. Okay. The home business was one thing.
I was really happy to bake for people for their special occasions. Um, and I love that I could do it alone, solitary, like privately, and still make people, people days with my food. The content part of it. I think it's something that I really loved doing, but for years I felt like I was putting up videos that like no one was watching and I felt dumb, and I was like, okay, I don't actually know if this is gonna go anywhere.
Um, and I was just telling a friend recently who started content creation maybe a year ago, um, and she was like, Catherine, I feel so stupid. Like no one's looking at my videos. And I was like, girl, you got two more years of feeling stupid before you see anything happen, because that's really how I felt, just like sending videos out into the void.
But that's how Netflix found me. Somebody, uh, like a casting agent looked at my Instagram and thought. Maybe I would be a good fit to apply. So I feel like even if I didn't make the show, that by itself was validation, that like, oh, I'm actually on the right track. People are noticing my videos. It could lead to something in the future to actually make it to the Netflix show.
Was insane. I think filming it was like a very surreal experience in itself, but it was really validating. I mean, you've seen the show, the people on this show are like so crazy brilliant and talented and like these are the best bakers that I've met, and they're wonderful people too. Um, and so I think being there the first couple days, I definitely had imposter syndrome because I was the youngest contestant, I had the least baking experience out of everyone.
Um, when we filmed, I had only started baking four years prior, which is like everyone there had way more experience than me, but everyone was so great. And they were just always jumping in to help me that they never made me feel like I was less than. And I think that really affected my experience on the show because I definitely could have seen myself kind of mentally spiraling and being like, what am I doing here?
And I definitely had a couple moments of that, but I think everyone being so amazing kept to that from being my experience. That sounds like an incredible, like a really supporting environment too, and you're just like. Nurturing all of this, this moment, like it's it. I can't even imagine what that would be like.
And to have like all the lights and all the cameras and, and now you have this wonderful group of people that you're learning from, that are supporting you. And it's like building a community and knowing that, like, you got this. And you know, I, I think there was a moment in the show where we share the same love for the greatest philosopher, um, Taylor Swift.
And so I, oh, um, I was just like, there's moments where it's like. We have to really like, stay true to our values even among all of, you know, the, the craziness going on and know that like it took a lot to get to these points, like the patience, the years of putting content out there. I feel that way too. I mean, I'm relatively new.
I'm only about like a year and a half, maybe almost two years in, and I just feel like sometimes I'm like. Just putting things out there to put it out there. But I also know that it aligns with my values and it sounds very much like yours too, where you were putting things out, but it, and they may have felt a little silly, but that's also maybe part of, you know, the values that you have.
I know for me, sometimes I'm like, I just wanna be authentic and sometimes I'm a goofball and I'll put things up. I'm like, whatever. Um, and I think like when we are okay with showing up as ourselves. We get the support and the love that we need and we really stay grounded. And it sounds like that's what you did when you put yourself out there.
You were found on Instagram and you had this opportunity to really like shine because you did. You. You do. You absolutely did. And the fact that you showed up as yourself on the show, I think is what really gravitate. Had me gravitate towards you because I just was like. You see so much in content creation.
I'm sure you un you see this too everywhere. Mm-hmm. People are showing up in ways that I'm like, that is not real, or, yeah, that's a lot. And I don't know if you get stuck in the trap of like comparing where sometimes I'm like, oh, there's all these amazing filter flippers out there doing all this stuff.
And I'm just like, well, I don't do that way, or I didn't do it that good. And I can kind of get knocked down, knocked myself down a bit. Do you, does that ever happen to you when, I mean, what is that? That like when you're doing more content and you're putting yourself out there and also watching more content, like does that ever happen?
Oh yeah. I'm happy to report that after a few years of making content, I'm way more secure now than I used to be. But definitely when I was first starting out, I especially, 'cause I. I think I wasn't super sure what I wanted my content to look like or what my quote unquote brand would be. Now I know my brand is just me and however I wanna show up, like you said.
But whether it was like other content creators who bake for a living and post videos online or just like honestly really pretty girls on the internet, the comparison was definitely real and I. I think it's important to do your research to see what is working, to try and figure out how to grow your page.
I think it's important to be strategic and at the same time I was seeing so many people hop on a trend and then me thinking about like, okay, I could make this work for my niche and for what I want my page to look like, but also this is never something that I would actually say or do in real life, and I think.
The people that know me would be able to see right through that. And I just didn't want my page to get to a place of like, okay, I'm like a dime a dozen influencer now. Like I really care about meaningful connection and like putting my real self out there. Um, and so now I think it really helps with like making the content too, because there's a lot less pressure for me to.
Jump on a trend or bake something that is way out of my comfort zone just so that I can make a video that I don't even know will do well. Um, so yeah, I think I'm really happy with where I am now, but it definitely was hard at the beginning. That makes sense. That makes sense. And that resonates a lot where I'm still kind of like, not where I was a year and a half ago, but at this point it's like.
Sometimes I still am thinking about this. Or is my strategy like, is this totally off the wall? I'm just using knowledge of like what I've known in the past or trying out new things or experimenting. And sometimes it can be, it can be guesswork, but it sounds like, you know, for others who might be just starting out or thinking about, you know, maybe starting a, they have their full-time job and they're burnt out and they wanna kind of start doing their passion on the side and posting about it, and it sounds like.
From what I'm hearing you say, you just gotta start doing. You just gotta post the things and just kind of let it go and not necessarily care about how it's received, because it can take a while for things to really get to a point of. Be noticed and that that is perfectly fine and acceptable and actually very comforting.
I think sometimes I'm like, okay, not a ton of people saw this, so I'm okay. Yeah. I mean, I think definitely like just post it, just let it go. Um, I've also learned that like sometimes taking the path of least resistance is the best thing to do because I'll have. A video that I like took all this footage for, but it's taking me weeks to edit it, and then I'm not in love with the idea anymore and I just have to scrap it so that I can move on and make more content than I'm excited about.
And then I think consistency is definitely like the main thing because you see so many people. Want to start making content for good reason. It's, it can be very lucrative now and a lot of fun, but then they'll stop after six months because it's not working. I think the reality is it just takes so much time and consistency to actually see it pay off.
Totally. No, it, it totally does. It's, I think everyone's looking for that next viral hit, and then it's like, but that's not reality. And also that doesn't always support your goals, like whether it's just for content or side hustle or business. It could actually harm them. Sometimes I think I've just read things and it's like, oh, maybe we don't want that.
Like, so I'm curious, how much time do you spend baking? How do you kind of break down your day between baking and content creation and dog walking and everything else you have going on? How does the time management work? Yeah, I think I am definitely still figuring it out. Um, I just started a new medication with my narcolepsy, so like the last few weeks have been.
Me needing to have a lot of grace and patience for myself, a hundred percent. But I think that I actually really like the different components that my day is made up of now, because if I don't have an order due like right away, and I don't feel like getting up and going to the kitchen and taking out all my ingredients and materials, I can just walk from the bedroom to the office and tell myself I'm gonna edit one video and then I can call that a win.
And maybe we can just order lunch. Then usually the dog walking is anywhere between like one to 4:00 PM so that's a really nice break in my day. I can go out, I can breathe some fresh air. I try to not look at my phone when I'm walking the dog. I just like am alone with my thoughts. Thoughts and like looking at nature.
It just. Trying to practice gratitude in those moments too, of just being outside with a dog that I love. And then I'll come home and I'll either bake or, or make dinner first, whatever makes the most sense. But it's also been really helpful for me over the years to figure out how, how I can break up my bakes too.
So like I just had this enormous order this past weekend. I'm gonna rattle it off. It was a half sheet cake. An apple pie. A pumpkin pie. A pumpkin cheesecake. Two dozen, uh, chocolate chip cookies, two dozen creme brulee, sugar cookies, two dozen strawberry cheesecake cookies. And then I also threw in some mini cupcakes because I love the person that made the order.
And so I was like, you're ordering so much, I wanna throw in more because that is so kind of you. And I think it was really overwhelming for me at first, but then I figured out how to pace myself and I made a plan before I started. I was actually not close to having a mental breakdown the entire week, and I'm very proud of myself.
Um, so yeah, I think it's a process, but I'm actually very happy with how my days are structured now and there is a structure, but I can also swap things around a lot, and that's very helpful and freeing for me. It sounds like the flexibility just really lets you do what you do best in that moment and support your health.
Support all of the things that you're giving to others. Like I think that's such a balance, especially you have, that's a huge order, that's a lot of energy and time to put into it and it all sounds amazing and they probably loved every single bite and that, all the background work that has to go into that is it takes a lot and so.
I'm curious, Kat, if, if there is a piece of advice, if you're thinking of someone who might have been where you were like five, six years ago in a role that things loved and they thought this is where they were, you know, going, but you know, maybe there was something else kind of challenging them, whether it be health or you know, family or whatever it is, what advice would you give them the, the things that you know now?
What advice would you give to someone in that situation who might be thinking of making a change but might be. Really scared or might not think they're good enough. Wow. I think a few things come to mind. I would say the first piece of advice is I think leaving is the hardest part. Leaving is the scariest and starting something new is a big investment of time and energy, and oftentimes money, but.
If it's something that helps you be your true self and live in a healthier, happier way, it's always worth it, even if the pay is less, even if it's not something that your parents would be happy about or your friends, you know, if they would judge you for it. I think that leads to the other thing I was gonna say, which is everyone's journey is their own.
I think I've learned over the years. To make a habit of cheering on other people's successes instead of looking at someone's successes on their path and their journey and using it to discount my own efforts. Um, so yeah, just remembering that everyone has their own timeline. Um, and then the last thing is I think make sure you have really supportive people around you, even if it's just one person that will always believe ahead of you.
Um, almost. See what you could be and what your life could be, even if you're in a season of, you know, trying something new and feeling like it's not working. Like we're all gonna hit that point when we transition into something new. Um, but it's like we were saying earlier about needing another person.
I'm very thankful to have a bunch of people in my life who have always been so happy to share my YouTube videos or to. Post about things that they've ordered from me, even when no one really paid attention to me. And they were always so supportive. And so I think in life in general, you should have a community.
Um, but I think especially during a season as important as a career change, like community is so important. And speaking of community, cat, how can people connect with you to talk with you, to order from you to just. Talk about career change stories. Because I'm chronically online, I have a lot of different ways that you can contact me.
I love connecting with people. Uh, one of the greatest blessings after the show came out has been all the messages from people from around the world. So thank you to everyone. So my main Instagram account is at it's Cat Chang. Um, and then I have a separate one for my business, and that's at. Cats bakes, NYA lot of people think it's cat bakes, but it's cats like the bakes belong to me.
Um, I made them, I have a foodie Instagram that I started for fun because I love eating food. Um, and so that's at Catz Eats, but it's C-A-T-Z-E-A-T-Z because the one with S'S was taken already. Um, and I have a YouTube channel that I'm really. Happy about. Um, I try to post something once a month. Um, if you just search catching on YouTube, you'll find me and my TikTok is the same as my main Instagram handle.
It's. At it's catching. So lots of, I'm very reachable. Thank you so much for being here today. It was so great to talk with you. I, I appreciate your time and you're just wonderful and I wish you Oh, thank wish absolute best success and we will definitely stay connected. Yes, it was such a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
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