Ever wondered what it’s like to leave the comfort of a steady corporate job and dive headfirst into the chaos of founding your own startup, where you're suddenly wearing all the hats?
Ever wondered what it’s like to step away from the comfort of a steady corporate job and dive headfirst into the whirlwind of founding your own startup, where you’re suddenly the one wearing all the hats?
Meet Tushar Jain from India. He is the founder of Enthu.ai, a software designed to help coach sales and customer service agents, improving overall customer experiences. Tushar didn’t just flip his career once—he’s done it twice. First, he left his stable enterprise job to join a startup in a completely different city. Then, he took the ultimate leap and became a full-time founder of his own tech startup. His journey is all about taking risks, embracing change, and finding the non-financial rewards in entrepreneurship, like more control over his time and being able to spend quality moments with family.
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So the yes, the risk is that, okay, you know, I'm leaving a, a stable job and getting into a startup. What if it doesn't work? The point is, I would have learned so much things that another startup would hire me for a way better salary than what I'm drawing right now. Right. So probably I think if you, if you, if you change your mindset, the point of view, right, the, the center of your thought process, if you change that, I think it becomes easier to take those risks.
Welcome to the Career Flipper, a weekly podcast all about career change stories from people in all kinds of industries. We talk about how they get from point A to point B in all the twists and turns and surprises in between. If you've been thinking about switching careers, consider this. Your permission slip to go ahead and do it.
I'm your host Jenny Dempsey, a career flipper myself. After 18 years in customer service and tech startups, I got laid off and I turned to furniture flipping rescuing pieces that were headed for the trash and giving them new life. You can check out my makeovers over on San Diego Furniture Flipper on TikTok and Instagram.
I started this podcast because honestly, I feel pretty alone and a little wacky with my career. Club, but I started to talk to others who made the leap too. And I learned that tons of people out there are flipping their careers and hearing their stories has been really inspiring. And it made me realize that it's never too late to switch lanes.
And every single conversation that I have with a guest teaches me something new. We all have so much to learn from one another, and I figured if these stories are helping me feel a little more confident and a little less alone, they might help someone else too. That's why I started the career Flipper, to share these amazing journeys and offer support to anyone thinking about in the middle of, or just passed a career flip.
Okay. On to today's episode, ever wonder what it's like to step away from the comfort of a steady corporate job and dive head first into the whirlwind of founding your own startup where yours. Suddenly the one wearing all the hats, me, Tushar Jane from India. He's the founder of In through.ai, a software designed to help coach sales and customer service agents improving overall customer experiences.
Tushar didn't just flip. His career once he's done it twice. First, he left the stable enterprise job to join a startup in a completely different city. Then he took the ultimate leap and became a full-time founder of his own tech startup. His journey is all about taking risks, embracing change, and finding the non-financial rewards in entrepreneurship, like more control over his time and being able to spend quality moments with his family.
Let's get to the conversation now. Hi Tushar. Hey, Jenny. Hi, thanks for joining from India today. Where, where exactly in India are you? So Jenny, I'm very close to New Delhi. There's a place by the name of Chenal, but it's up in the north, uh, so around, I think two 50 kilometers from, uh, new Delhi. That's where I'm located.
Wow. Love that. That's so awesome. I'm so excited to have you join today and tell your career. Flip story. You know, we've connected on LinkedIn through the customer experience community, so I'd love for you to kind of share a little bit more about who you are so people can get to know you before you talk about the big career flip.
Absolutely. Thank you Jenny. And I think first thanks a lot for inviting me to this, uh, podcast series, uh, right. It's a pleasure. Uh, I'll quickly introduce myself. I'm thar Jen. I am the founder of a B2B SaaS company by the name of N through ai. Now we help customer facing teams, AKA call center agents, right, improve the quality of their conversations, uh, by deploying ai.
When, you know, when we talked on LinkedIn, it was a. I mean, I was expecting that you will be asking things around customer experience and you know, other related things, but it was a completely different thing. Kaisha. So, so your question at, have you, have you flipped career? Right. So that was quite in, so that was quite interesting and exciting and yeah, I had two career shifts.
In my, in my journey and I thought I can add value to this podcast. So, yep. Yeah, happy to talk about those career flips. Oh, I love it. And I, I love the little surprise 'cause Yeah, that's what I've done for like almost two decades customer experience. So to do this is very unique, which is why I am on the path of talking to people and.
Really learning from anyone else who've done this. So I feel less alone. So, yeah. So, okay. Two career flips throughout your career. You know, tushar share, share your story, tell us your career flips. Sure. So I think, uh, I'll, I'll talk about my story first. Uh, I'm an engineer and a, and an MBA by by education.
After my MBAI had a typical. Uh, enterprise career path where I was part of billion dollar companies. Right. Part of their sales team, consulting teams. Right. Uh, working with enterprise customers. Uh, I did, I did this for around five or six years, and then I had, so I was, I was there in New Delhi while I was doing this right.
Mumbai, new Delhi changed a couple of cities, but the career path was very standard and very uniform. But then in 2000 2014, I had to shift my city, right? So I had to move from a tier one city to a tier three city where I'm right now, right? Which is, which is by the name of Chand Guard. And when I had to do that switch there, were there, I mean, there are no big companies in my town, in my city, right?
So I got an offer from a startup, right? And uh, obviously I had to go for a pay cut because, uh, the salaries in. Um, in, in, in a big city versus in a tier two or tier three cities, they are, uh, they are way apart, right? Yeah. Uh, plus, uh, the, the startups in twenty a hundred twenty fourteen, especially in India.
Uh, they were not, the scene was, the startup scene was not as bright as what it is today, which means now startup based out of cga are giving you to year one salaries. That was not the case. So I think that was the first career flip where you have to completely switch your path working in an established company, working with, you know, having very good practices.
People practices, uh, you know, learning. Okay, learning is everywhere, but I think from where being a very, you know, in a very structured environment to, in a completely haphazard and firefighting mode, that was my first career flip. Right. And I can talk more about it, right? But the second career flip came when, so working in these startups for a couple of years, right?
Yeah. Uh, I always had that entrepreneurial spirit, but it was buried. Deep somewhere, right? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But in these startups, I realized that probably, you know, I mean, it was always a, it was always a, um, it was always on the back of your mind that, okay, I should start off my own. I had ideas. I was doing some side gigs.
So in 2019, I took that, uh, plunge of jumping into a full-time as a, as a full-time startup founder. Right. Leaving my job behind and, uh, starting and yeah, it has been almost five years since I started and I. I'm really happy. I mean, I can't be sorry. I, I started, I, I mean, that was the best career decision that I have taken, I would say.
Wow. So, okay. You know, going from working for a company that had a high salary and then moving to a place where you have to really start over again from, you know, a different, a whole different city. And then also, you know, you mentioned the pay and just like experience wise and the new people, and then going into.
Your own business. Mm-hmm. And you mentioned the entrepreneurial spirit. What, but you buried it down. Why did you bury it down? Like what was it about it that made you feel that you had to, I think once you have remained in a career again, and that's, that's what I feel. Right. And I think, and that's my story, right after you have spent a couple of years in, in a, in a stable job, right?
Uh, I think you get used to your salary. It's a dope. And that's, that's a, that's a difficult thing to give up, right? So always on the back of your mind, you have to think that, oh, one day I'll start on my own, I'll do this, I'll do that. But, but when you get that salary credited message on 30th, right? I think that's a difficult thing to give up.
So, uh, I, I would see, right now I'm a startup founder, but if I hadn't taken the first career flip, which means I, I transitioned from a stable. Easygoing job into a job which has so many ups and downs and your belly. I mean, you are always, there's a firefighting mode, right? That gave me that exposure that, okay, this is what a startup culture is like.
Right? And then again, going from there to that, okay, now can I, rather than being a employee in a startup, can I be the founder of that startup? Right? So I think that was a complete transition. It's not that, you know, it was buried, but probably the time was not right. It it, it had its own journey. Right. I have to see things that, okay.
You know, uh, uh, I would say as a person, you have to evolve. Right? I evolved. It's not that I wanted to do something and the next day I took a decision probably. I see. Last I had, I had been working for around, I think 17 years now. So it has been a, it has been an evolution. The career flips have been a major contributor to what I am today, right?
The decisions I took took, I attribute them to these two career flips that I made, you know, that I, that I had. So, yeah, again, to answer your question, to cut it short, right? It's not that, you know, it was buried deep inside. It's okay. It was buried deep inside. But I think it has, it had to take its own sweet time to evolve and come out.
Yes. Okay. So that makes so much sense because a lot of these things, like they don't, it doesn't happen overnight. That's really the biggest thing. Like you, you mentioned, you know, or I hear a lot in the interviews, like when I'm chatting with, with individuals around the world talking about this like.
There's that, that moment where it's like, this is when I decided to jump. And then you jump. But it takes years. And you mentioned, you know, that you evolved, you learned things, you, you experienced things and it all were breadcrumbs toward this big decision to jump. So it was more of like, almost like calculated risk in a way you felt.
I'm guessing, and, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you probably felt more prepared to take that jump and even though it still was a jump, you felt more prepared because you had kind of been working in that direction without maybe really planning the whole time, but it just led you to it and you felt like the right thing.
Does that kind of sound abs? Absolutely. And because you are talking, I think you, you made a very, very interesting point about risk taking, right? Mm-hmm. I think probably, you know, if I see my journey. There are no risks or other risks are really limited, but in your mind you amplify those risks and you feel like, oh God, you know, the earth will tumble if I take this risk.
But eventually they are. I mean, they are. They're not even risks. So I'll give you an example where, when I was working in this metro city, I was working in New Delhi, I was working with McKinsey and Company, right? Which is a, which is a very big brand, right? When I shifted to Chand Guard, my home city, right?
Uh, I worked with a startup, which probably not even 10 people have heard about it right now. If you think, if you think about it, right? Okay. The risk is huge. Right to, to a nav person. The risk is quite huge. Right. But what's the risk there? If, let's say things don't work out with this startup, I can always go back and join another company in, in New Delhi, right?
Yeah. So point is most of the times we just, we just, uh. Blow out the risk out of proportion, which is, which is probably, you know, if you, if you give it some logical thought. And same with my, with my second career flip, right. The startup scene was booming in India. Right. And, uh, the type of learning that you get in startup, the, the financial outcomes that you can build for yourself in startup.
Yeah, I would say if you're not doing a startup, you are taking a bigger risk, right? So the yes, the risk is that, okay, you know, I'm leaving a, a stable job and getting into a startup, what if it doesn't work? The point is, I would have learned so much things that another startup would hire me for a way better salary than what I'm drawing right now.
Right. So probably I think if you, if you, if you change your mindset, the, the point of view, right, the, the center of your thought process, if you change that, I think it becomes easier to take those risks. Yeah, that's a, that's such a good point. It is a good point. It is all mindset. I know for myself, I am always blowing things out of proportion just 'cause I get scared.
I get scared. They know all the what ifs. Right? The what ifs. Like what if, like you mentioned, you know, what if it doesn't work out? What if I don't make enough money or what, you know, all the things. And, um, but you don't know until, you know, until you do it. And Absolutely. Then you can always, you can always go back.
You can always do something different. And I think. A lot of us put ourselves in this box and we're like, this is what we're gonna do. And then if it, you know, if it's outside of that, it's. We magnify that risk and it's completely unnecessary because we'll miss out on a lot of the, you know, experiences and opportunities.
So, so I'm curious, like when you took that, you know, you were like, I'm gonna dive in, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna start, you know, my own company. What was that experience like for you at first? Like, were there moments of imposter syndrome? Were there moments of like, why did I do this? Like, what did you enjoy it?
Like, what was that like for you? For one complete year, Jenny. It was horrible. It was deeply horrible. Right? Again. Yeah. Again, the reason is because you were, you are used to drawing a salary and for one year, you know, you don't get that message on, um, on the last day of the month that the salary has been credited to your bank account.
And that's, that really, it feels eerie. You know? It feels eerie. Mm-hmm. And another thing is ob, obviously there is risk, right? It's situational. My situation might be different than yours, right? But I planned for my situation. I had some savings in my account. Right. And I used that. But, you know, using that pool of savings, right, without adding something to that pool.
But taking it, taking out, it's, it's really a crappy feeling, right? So I think it initial one year was really, really hard. Uh, both from financial perspective because you, you don't have an active source of income. Second, you are used to salaries. You're used to getting something right, and it's not happening.
Third, you are into a startup and you don't know where it's going. So just for the record purposes, my first startup tanked. Right? It didn't took off, right? I, I hardly, I mean, when I started, COVID happened within. I think eight months. Right. And probably the startup was not offering, offering any value, and that's why the customer dropped because it was not a good to have product.
It, it was not a must have product. It was a good to have product. Right. Yeah. But I think it happened for good, right? That customers dropped. So I could pivot earlier than later. Right. But if you ask me, I think going through all these three things, without money, without a, without a startup, which has and without customers, that was really.
Uh, I mean, it, it was a horrible feeling. Oh yeah, no, I, I completely understand, uh, that, uh, you know, living out of your savings. Well, it's wonderful to be so prepared to use it. A lot of the times it's like, we don't wanna have to use it. And then when we do, and you mention that feeling. Yeah. It is just kind of like, I'm a, I'm grateful, but at the same time like, oh, I really wanna replenish this.
Right, exactly. So, yeah, and, and I think looking retrospectively, I think that's probably. That's not a right mindset to have, right? Yeah. 'cause when, when you have such type of mindsets, you really play restrictive. But your, your attention gets, gets divided at, okay, no. Should I do a side gig? Should I fill this kitty?
What should I do? Right. So I think, uh, if I have to give someone suggestion, I would say, go all in. Right. Play it like a poker, go all in rather than, because, because as I said, there's no risk. What the worst that would happen is after one, one and a half year, I would be left with no savings, which means, mm-hmm.
Probably I have to get back into job and I will get into a better job. Right? The, you know, at least in my part of the country, the startup scenario is so good that I don't, I don't carry a real risk there. Yeah. So I think you have to look in, look like that. I mean, you have to, you have to look at a situation like that rather than being fixated on the things which you have left in the past.
Right. So, yeah. Yeah, that's, that makes a lot of sense. It's um, it's definitely one of those things where it's all mindset again, all mindset again, and. If you don't try it, you'll never know. And I'm, you know, there's also, and, and also actually, a question I was gonna ask was, and I don't know if you've experienced this, when you do live in that kind of, it's almost like a scarcity mindset.
Um, yeah. Of like, you start making, at least I've started to make, or I have in the past made decisions based on that, that are not aligned with the actual goal that I'm on. Like, I'm on a goal to build, you know, a particular. Business. Mm-hmm. And then I get afraid of not having money because it takes time to build that.
And so then I choose, you know, I go get this, you know, whether it's a part-time job that I don't actually really want. Yep. But I'm just doing it to do it. And then I might not show up as my best self, or I might go and like, you know, try to, you know. Put more energy into finding the money instead of staying on the path.
And I find that that takes away from the main goal and then it takes more time to build that up and the energy I'm depleted. Like did you ever experience any of that kind of like jump, you know, I'm just, I gotta make money and then it's like, wait, what am I doing? Like I don't, I shouldn't, you know, the mindset thing and going back to that.
Oh, absolutely. I think that that used to happen. In fact, that used to happen for a good amount of time in, in my entrepreneurial journey, right? Because. I mean, that's what the journey is, right? You are leaving the things in the short term to gain, you know, to have bigger outcomes in the long term, right? I think our mind works in short term.
Right? It, it's as good as a pound, you know, penny, sorry, Pennywise and Pound Foliage. That's the mentality that we have. And you know, sitting at this, at this point, giving someone, stitching back my story, it's easier said than done. Right? When you are in such a situation, because you have to pay your bills, you have to pay for your family expenses, right?
Yeah. Uh, you, you always keep on get, getting back to the thought that, okay, how would I, how would I, let's say. You know, pay my next bill or. Or do X, Y, Z or societal pressure, how would I get my next vacation? Or, I mean, you have to give up those things, right? That's the, the entire societal pressure. But the objective is, am I gaining something for the, from, you know, in the, in the long term, that should be the idle scenario, idle thought, but unfortunately that doesn't happen.
I'm sure no matter. How much you tune yourself, how much you coach yourself. Our mind is tuned for short term. It's just that. So the point is you have to manage risk, you have to manage your thoughts, right? These thoughts will come, you will feel low. It's just that you have to just manage that low point and then get out of that lower point and then ride the wave and.
Wait till the till. You get the next low point and then again, right. Rollercoaster. Rollercoaster, yeah. Yeah. Rollercoaster. Exactly. Yeah. And there's other things that show up. I it show up for me and maybe you resonate with this too, of like the non-money things like, yes there's so many of the money and you know, gains Ann, you know, and challenges, but there's also like the amount of time and flexibility and dreaming.
I don't know if you've experienced this, but when I got. Out of kind of the, you know, rigid status of burnout, you know, burnout from working a lot in corporate. Um, I started to like, have dreams again. I started to like feel like less, you know, not necessarily less stressed 'cause I was stressed in a different way, but like, I just felt more like myself again.
I felt like I was contributing to my relationships. I was showing up as a better version of myself because I was able to like. Go on a path that was like actually lighting me up. Um, even though, you know, it has all the challenges. Did you ever experience anything like that when you're like, I'm following this and this is what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna build this company.
Mm-hmm. And there's other things that are really showing up for you, like more time with your family, more, you know, whatever it is. Like, did that ever show up for you? Uh, it did. Uh, you are talking from a positive perspective or from a negative perspective? Yes. A positive, like a, any, you know, non-financial gains of taking Oh, that calculated risk.
Oh, non-financial gains. I think the biggest non-financial gain is I'm the owner of my time now. Mm-hmm. Though I'm working, you know, I'm doing two full-time jobs. Earlier I was doing one. For, for probably eight, nine hours now I'm working 16 hours. Right. But the point is, these 16 hours are, I mean, I have the control of my time, right?
I have, I wake up early, I come to office early, right. I spend, I, I spend some quality me time when no other employees in the office. I leave my office early. Right. I spend time in the, in the evenings with myself. Uh, I, I then had a couple of calls during the evening, right? And I mean, I mean, the entire. Uh, I, I can see I'm in control of my time.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. And, and that means there, there are, I, I can, I can, I can have vacations. I, I do travel. Right. But again, it's not that once when you are an employee or when you are working full time. Right. Uh, you are cut off right now. I just have to manage. I mean, my client calls go on while I have, while I'm having dinner with my family in a restaurant while I'm vacationing.
Somewhere, but I think that has become a second nature. It, it's about how I, it's not about work life balance, it's about managing both of them together. Right. So I think that's the biggest thing I could, I I, I can spend rather, I am spending some very quality time with my family. So I have a kid, uh, right.
So I spend, I actually play outdoor games with her, and that's only because I am the owner of my own time. Right. Otherwise, I, I'm sure it wouldn't have been possible. Yeah. Yeah, that's very, that's very true. There is so much, um, like freedom and flexibility to be able to be the owner of your time and to do the things that you want to do.
And so you, you have these, you have these things, you have the right mindset, you jump in and now you are, you know, running the company. You, and it sounds like two companies. And so you are doing all of this and. I'm guessing, like what, is there anything that you would have changed when you decided to take this dive in?
Now that you're at this point, you know, was it five years in? When you look back, is there anything that you would have done differently? One thing from business perspective, right? If I have to, if I, I, I would probably take that decision, uh, much thoughtfully now, right? Whether I have to go into entrepreneurship or not.
And again. It's not about going into entrepreneurship or not, it's about what to do in entrepreneurship. Right. Which idea I am picking. Right. So when I started, if, if I, if I look at by, look back at my story, I think the, the first idea that I picked, I didn't research it enough, right? I, it was just like, okay, you know, I was just feeling.
Stuck in a job. It was like, okay, let's start something. Let's start something. And the first idea that came across, I just picked it up and started doing. But I think that was a, that was a stupid thing to do. Probably the best thing is when you are having you have a job, let it be, right. At least be thankful that you are getting.
Money to pay your bills. Start building the idea. Think about it. Start talking about the idea. Start validating it with other people, right? Reach out to people on LinkedIn. Build a business case before you plunge into it, right? Again, don't go to an extent because, I mean, again, the, the problem would be that at to what extent should you think about, because in the, if you give it too much of a thought, uh.
Everything is impossible, right? Because that's how our mind works. So you need to know that, okay, is it, is it being thought through enough? Right? Is there a real demand in the market? What are some of the early wins, early customers, early prospects, early frames, who can help me here? Right? And then take a, take a calculated risk, right?
Do it with your job and make it a smooth transition rather than, you know. Just being, feeling frustrated probably. I think that that's a wrong thing. Way of, I see a lot of people saying, I, I, I'm frustrated with my job and that's why I'm starting entrepreneurship. That shouldn't be the case. And even if that's the case, give it some time, think through it, right?
And, and transition over a period of time rather than just find a snapping all the ties and, and then thinking what to do. That, that's a really great point. I think that goes back to mindset too, where I know myself, like in the past there would be I, I've had a lot of wonderful jobs, but sometimes I made it harder than it needed to be.
And no matter if I changed the job, I was like, oh, I'm so frustrated here, I'm gonna go somewhere else. Well, it's the same problems. And guess who the common denominator. Me. And so I had to really like look into, well, what is causing me the frustration? Oh, I'm saying yes to too many things or I'm, you know, do whatever it is.
And so, and I love that you bring that up because when you leap out of a place of frustration, you might be missing. The things that you are putting into the frustration, like how are you contributing to it? It is a two-way street. There's multiple things that go on. There's different ways to bring things up and to resolve issues, but a lot of the times it's us like going back, you know, co making it bigger than it should be.
And so I, I really appreciate you bringing that up of like, if you're going to take that calculated risk, like do it from a place of like, you know, it, it kind of, this, I don't know if it's like a, a solid ground, but. To do it from a place of like, just own your own stuff. What is causing that frustration in the first place?
'cause I'm guessing, you know, if you were to leap into something out of that, you might just run into the same, same challenges, same roadblocks, same feelings. And it might even be magnified. 'cause it's all you, it's all you doing the company, I think, yeah, I think transition from a point of vantage. Not, not from a point of weakness.
Right. That's, that would be the right thing to do. To do that, you have to be mindful, right? If I am always going to blame my boss or my work, I mean, it's going to remain the same, right? I'll, I'll find the bosses are similar. The work is, is same across the company, right? It's about me, right? I can, I can find joy in boring work, right?
And I can't find joy in, in super exciting work. The point is, if, if I'm thinking of something, think I mean. If I'm, I'm, if I'm trying off a career flip, the only, what, what I'm trying to say here is think about it. Right? Sometimes, you know, another thing can be that so far in my case, the job that I was doing right in a startup, I had built so many connections in there and I used those connections when I started on my own, right?
So in a, in a way my earlier job was ac it, it actually. Uh, give me a, give me a step or two on which I could, I couldn't build my next startup, right? Otherwise I would have been feeling fresh, uh, starting afresh, right? So I think there, there are multiple ways to think about it, right? But be thankful that you have a job.
Don't feel that in frustration. Just, just think, think about what you want to do and how your current job can help you. And then go, go ahead and take a calculated risk. Definitely and lean on the network. Lean on the people that, you know, ask for support that you know, you know, has to run by ideas. Like, use that network that you've, you've built.
I think that's also really important, a important point because we can't, as much as we are doing it ourselves, we also can't just do it on our own. We have a whole community out there and there's great people like even, you know, talking to you today. Like there, it's just a great opportunity to connect with people and learn from one another.
To continue forward on our own path, so, right. And in fact, I have, I have seen, you know, again, that's also a ghost of, uh, our ghost in our minds, people are very, very helpful. Right. You go, go to someone with a genuine ask for help, right? That, that shows in your messages, that shows in your tone. Right?
Obviously, I, I understand most of these social media platforms and everything. They are, they are very salesy right now. But still, if you go to you, you reach out to someone with a genuine ask for a help, people are actually helpful. At least that's what I experienced. People were super helpful. They were open to listening to me, they were open to helping me out, give their suggestions.
And I mean, that contributed to my story. They're, they're countless people. I, I can't even count the number of people who, who helped me out cold, right? They, they, I mean, some people knew me, but there are a lot of people whom, I mean, you are a perfect example. I just reach out to you. You know, we started talking and, and then we decided that, okay, let's have a conversation.
Right? So I think people are really helpful. If you reach out with a, with a Gen min ask. Yeah, agree. Agree. It is hard to weed through a lot of the salesy things that are out there, but there are the genuine connection opportunities. It is for sure. So, oh man, this is like such a great conversation. You have so much wisdom and so much insight because of your journey.
So how can people find you in connect with you if they wanna learn more about you or ask you questions? Sure. So I think the best channel is, uh, to reach out to me on LinkedIn. I'm quite active there. I keep sharing my startup stories, the learnings that I get from N through ai, right? So, uh, I am, I'm available.
Just search for N through AI and you would find me and just buzz me on LinkedIn and, and I'll be happy to connect and take the discussion forward. Wonderful. Thank you so much for taking the time to share. I, this is so, this is so wonderful. You are, you are so wise and so, so insightful, and I really appreciate all of your times.
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