A corporate sales and thrifted fashion curator, meet Liz Dekofsky in Los Angeles, California
This week, I got to chat with my friend Liz Dekofsky. She lives in LA, works full-time in a customer-facing job, and runs the coolest little side business curating thrifted style bundles.
If you’ve ever walked into a thrift store and felt totally overwhelmed or just didn’t have the energy to dig through the racks, Liz gets it. That’s why she does the hunting for you, and her eye for finding great pieces is seriously next-level.
But this episode goes deeper than just clothes.
Liz recently got sober, and it’s been a huge turning point in her life. That decision gave her the clarity and confidence to stop hiding parts of herself and start doing more of what lights her up. We talk about what it’s like to balance a side hustle with a full-time job, how she deals with imposter syndrome (hint: it’s still there, but she doesn’t let it run the show), and how she’s learning to show up more fully as herself.
If you’ve been sitting on an idea, waiting for the perfect moment, or thinking you need to be “fully ready” before you start something, this episode is your permission slip to just go for it.
Starting messy is still starting. And Liz is proof that small steps can lead to big, beautiful changes.
Let’s get into it.
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Just do it. Just do it. Just taking action on it because once you do it, your confidence is just gonna shoot up like, wow, I did it. I don't know if it's gonna be successful, but I am proud of myself and you absolutely should be proud of yourself at that. Hello and welcome back to the Career Flipper. I'm Jenny Dempsey, your host, your fellow career changer, and your furniture rest.
Friend who's still figuring it out as I go. If you're new here, this podcast started after I got laid off from my job in tech and kind of spiraled like full on what am I doing with my life mode. I applied to a billion jobs, got ghosted left and right, and in the middle of that. I found myself dragging a busted coffee table home and didn't have a plan, but I had a little bit of paint and, um, some sandpaper and, uh, watched a lot of YouTube to figure out how to start flipping furniture and transform these junky pieces into something new for a second chance and, well, I haven't stopped since.
Now, I also host the show where I talk to people from all over the world who flipped their careers, their lives. Their mindsets on purpose or by accident and live. To tell the tale, this week, I got to sit down with my friend Liz Koski, who lives in Los Angeles and is just such a light. I mean, she works full-time in a customer facing role, and on the side she runs a super fun business curating thrifted style bundles.
You know, like how walking into a thrift store can not, for me, I love thrift stores, but I know it can feel overwhelming to some people. Like it's just. Too many racks, too many things to go through, but Liz takes that off your plate. She finds the gems for you, styling up secondhand pieces and putting them together into bundles that you can wear to your next event or just to work.
But her story really goes so much deeper than just really cool outfits. Liz recently got sober and that choice was a huge turning point. It gave her the clarity and confidence to stop hiding parts of herself and really go after the things that she cares about. She talks honestly about what it's like to balance a creative side hustle with a full-time job.
How she keeps imposter syndrome from running the show spoiler and still shows up. She just doesn't let it drive. And why this version of her feels more aligned than ever. So if you're someone who's been sitting on an idea waiting for the right time or feeling like you need to be a hundred percent healed or ready before you begin, Liz is here to show you that starting small, messy, and real is more than enough.
Let's get into the episode now.
So. You know, Liz, we know each other from a really musical cool connection. My, you know, we've stood on these stages and looked out at crowds cheering on these amazingly talented musicians. One in particular you are incredibly close to, and we'll get to your work that later. But isn't the power of music and what it brings into people's lives just like wild to watch and witness.
It is, it is. I've, um, it just brings me and so many other people, joy, and I've met so many great people. You, for example, um, through it. So, yes, yes, definitely agree with you on that one. And if anyone is wondering what band we're talking about. Tribal Seeds is the band Liz, uh, your husband is in the band.
And I just think that, um, yeah, the power of music is incredible and watching those guys play and while we could probably yap about them all day, this episode is about you tell everybody who you are. And where you are and what you're doing now. Yeah, absolutely. So I am Liz. Um, I, as Jenny mentioned, we're connected through, um, this music thing, tribal Seeds.
My husband is Zeb, he is the drummer of Tribal Seeds. Um, and yeah, I'm out here. We're out here in Los Angeles. We live over by the beach in Redondo Beach. And right now I have kind of two things going on. I have a full-time, um, you know, kind of like nine to five situation. I work remote for a software sales company and then I recently started to do something for myself.
Um, I. Started a, um, a thrifting business. So not only do I thrift for myself and my loved ones, I am now starting to help others, um, you know, find curated pieces and putting together bundles for them. Which is so exciting because doing that on top of a full-time job is a lot, and we'll get into all this and I think for everyone listening, while this may not necessarily seem like a traditional career flip, I think what I, what was, what really drew me to your story, Liz, is the fact that.
Career flips typically start just like this. We have an idea, we wanna do something like you said, for ourselves or something different, whatever it is. And sometimes we don't ever start it, but you started it in addition to having a job. And I think there's a lot a full-time job, and I think there's a lot that we can learn from what you are navigating to apply to our own lives and be like, oh yeah.
I can, I can do this too. So Liz, like, how did this all start? I mean, your career, you've been doing what you're doing for a really long time, and so could you talk a little bit about how you got started on the career path you're at now and then what, what was the kicker that prompted you to start your thrifting business on the side?
Yeah, absolutely. So, um, when I graduated college. I got into real estate, so got into real estate sales and honestly, from there, like you said, I've been doing this for so long, I just stayed on the path of sales and customer support just because I, I feel like I'm really good with people. Um, obviously those two, um, jobs or careers do require you being good with people to be successful.
Um, so yeah, I've, you know, ever since I was a little girl, my dad said, you know, I would stop people and. Say hi to everybody. So just was a very outgoing child. Um, so, and I, I still have, you know, that side of me too, as I feel like the older we get, the more interpretive we become. But, um, so, but I still have that in me and, you know, taking what I knew, what I learned from, you know, working in sales for so long, working with people, you know, finding something that.
You know, people either want or need. Um, you know, it just took me a long time to kind of. Figure out something for myself. I knew I always wanted to do, you know, my own thing and, you know, not work under somebody like for the rest of my life. So, you know, I got really, really into thrifting. You know, I've thrifted, I've, you know, gone to thrift stores here and there, um, you know, since I was in middle school, high school, but.
It was maybe about two years ago. I got really kind of heavy into it. We, I, you know, like I said, I live in Redondo Beach. Um, you know, in LA there's so many, you know, people out here and the stores out here just have such great items and. You know, I love shopping. I love shopping. I love, uh, following trends.
I am like, I've always been like that. And you know, I was just like, you know what? You can find all of this stuff at the thrift and. You know, I kind of, I used to do the sheen halls, the, you know, Amazon Hall, things like that. But I just start like I, you know, I like to clean out my closet and I was constantly giving that stuff away.
'cause it was just, you know, it, it was trendy. Yeah. But it was also like shitty, shitty. Yeah. And then I started to, I learned about, you know, what goes into making those clothes, you know, the, the labor and you know, the mistreatment of workers, you know, so I was just like, you know what? There's. You know, clothes that need to be recycled and we can do that.
And there's an overabundance of clothes and, you know, shoes and bags and things like that after, at the thrift. So, um, you know, I started out, you know, long story, long, I started out looking for myself and then I got really, really good at it for myself and, you know, for Zeb, my husband, um, that I was like.
Why don't I do this? Like, you know, I would do it for, you know, our mutual friend, Melissa. Mm-hmm. Um, and some of my other friends and they're like, girl, you're so good at this. You have a great eye. And I'm like, you know, wow, I, I can actually do this for other people. I found some, you know, you know, mentors and info on social media like Instagram, TikTok, and, you know, reseller wise, seeing how they did it.
Um. And just took that leap and was like, let me just, let me just try this out. Let me just do this. Yeah, I love that. I love that. So you, you know, just to kind of like sum everything up and what I'm hearing, it's like. You, you had the day, the day job that you had the nine to five, but you knew that there was just something else you'd wanna do, but you, you weren't really sure, like there were kind of like questions, but then you leaned into something that you were personally interested in shopping.
And not only shopping, you tied it back to this sustainability aspect of like, oh, there are pieces of clothing that, you know, the way that they're made and then the way that they are discarded. It's like a process that may not be the most, like, I don't know, supportive. And they're, you know, the way that you clean out your closet and to get rid of these old things and give them away and you just kind of started to piece things together.
And how that kind of fell into place ended up like, wow, I'm getting good feedback about the things that I'm finding and like sharing with friends or like, you probably get like tons of compliments on your outfits 'cause you always look fantastic every time I've seen you. And so I just think like. There becomes this time where you had that like light bulb moment where you're like, okay, well I'm just gonna give this a try and see if maybe I could do it on a.
A scale that is not just for friends and family maybe. Maybe there's more. And I love that because so many people think about, okay, I don't wanna do the nine to five forever, but what can I do? And a lot of the times everyone's thinking so big or they're looking around for something, but it's kind of right in front of our faces, like it was something you enjoyed.
And I know personally, I love thrifting. Love it. I've been thrifting since I was a little kid. It just was part of like. The culture I grew up in at home, like so thrifting clothes has always been so fun, but there is a time component to it. These stores are big and I hear from a lot of my friends, they're always like, I would love to thrift more, but I don't have the time to sort through everything.
So here you come along and you do that. But now I'm curious. How do you find the time juggling a full-time job and also being able to curate and, and find these very unique pieces. So can you talk a little about the time management aspect of it and how you juggle it? Yeah, absolutely. Um, so I'm blessed to be able to work from home.
Um, so I have got my nine to five dialed in. I can. You know, get, you know, eight hours of work done, honestly in four hours. So yes. Um, that, that's their, that piece of it. Also, since I had kind of. Perfected it for myself. I know I have a route, I know which stores I'm gonna hit up on which days. So, um, I typically go in the beginning of the week and then a little bit towards the end of the week, and there's about four in my, you know, immediate like one two mile radius here.
That I just go, boom, boom, boom, you know? Yeah. And I know, I, I try to have always a plan, so that also helps with the time management at each store, so you're not spending, you know, hours because you can definitely spend hours in the store and, you know, there are the days where, you know, I'm like, okay, I have the time.
Let me look through every single item here. And then there's other. You know, days where I, I know specifics of what I'm looking for for other people or, you know, for myself. Um, so there's that. And you know, I, I try to get, you know, of course they always say this, try to get the hard stuff done, you know, first thing in the morning.
So I. The hard stuff being my nine to five. Take that outta the way. Yeah. Take that outta the way. Also, you know, of course responding 'cause I'm a, you know, online reseller responding to offers. Mm-hmm. You know, I can do everything kind of simultaneously because my full-time job, I'm on the phone. So, and a lot of, you know, a lot of people do not answer my phone calls.
You know, it's a numbers game with that. So I just, I can multitask so I can, you know, bring up my, my screen. I have two monitors here at my desk. I can make the call, I can look on the other screen at my, you know, deep o my Poshmark, my eBay, and respond to offers and respond to messages from, you know, uh, buyers on there.
So. Yeah, that's pretty much how I, you know, have, you know, managed my time. Um, but you know, I'm still learning. I'm still in the learning, you know, phase here. Um, you know, there are times, you know, with complete honesty, you know, I do feel a little bit of burnout. Um, my voice is a little raspy now because I did get to.
Sick and I think, you know, just pushing myself really hard, um, doing the most, yeah, kind of my body's like, girl, you need to like slow down a little bit. So, yeah. Yeah. And that's a, a good reminder too that while time management can play into all this and it's so important for juggling all the things, we still gotta take care of ourselves, especially if we're sick.
And sometimes that means we have to slow down. Yeah. And I think for people like you and me who are similar, where we got our multim monitors and we're like doing all the things, but also on our phone like. It can be hard to give ourselves that permission to be like, okay, I'm maybe not gonna answer this message in 24 hours.
It might be 48 or, or one hour instead of 30 minutes. You know, it could be, it just kind of, we have to really reset expectations, and I think that's a really good. Good call out. Um, and also just kind of hearing how, you know, where you're dialed in with the nine to five and you're able to structure your day or you still get the things that you need to get done.
You're still on that team, you're still doing what you need to do, and then you're able to, you go, you know, your route. You have that like strategically mapped out and how do you kind of keep track of like. When it comes to like customers, 'cause we wanna talk about that part. 'cause some people who are starting their own business might only be used to working with customers in like a corporate setting.
But when you do it for your own brand, sometimes Kim. I don't know. Sometimes it can be a little bit more challenging because it almost feels like, at least sometimes for me with furniture, it's like not, um, they're not critiquing a business that I'm working for. Then I'm like, okay, you know, whatever they're critiquing a piece of art that I made or something that I made for, you know, whatever.
I spent time and energy, and it can be a little bit, you, I don't know, it's almost like a. Even if you've been doing it for years and years and years, there's a bit of a, a mentality shift. At least that's what I experienced of when working with customers. When it's your own personal brand, and I'm wondering if that is anything that has kind of like came on your path too, where, I don't know, it's just sometimes might be a little bit different.
Maybe not hard or challenging, but it can be a little different. Yeah. Um, you're right because it, there's that aspect of, you know, it is your, your own business. And right now, you know, because I'm in the building phase, I'm having, you know, like kind of my sphere of influence be the supporting, you know, the, the drive to building this.
So that would be friends, family, you know, and I don't wanna let them down. So it's, um. You know, it, it's, it's, that's what, like, kind of going back to like giving your body that time, that can be a little added stress, right? Because you wanna make sure you're making them happy. Um, not saying they're any better than like the, you know, customers that you don't really know.
Yeah. Um, but it's that added component, you know? Right. That you have these high expectations for yourself because these are people you love and you care about. Yeah. Um. You know, I, I think kind of going back to, you know, the sales. Experience that I have. I am so just numb and immune to rejection, and so I think I have like a little bit more of a thick skin when it comes to that.
Of course. Like I said, I want to make everybody happy, but I just know sometimes it's not possible. You know, sometimes it's just, you know, I've you, and you probably included. We've all been there where we boughten something and we were so excited about it, but then it just kind of fell a little short. You know, we're like, Ugh, this isn't, this didn't turn out the way I thought it was gonna turn out.
And I have to keep reminding myself of that. Like, you know, it is okay if I missed the mark on something. Um. But I gotta keep reminding myself of that because like, I've been lucky. I haven't experienced that just yet. Yeah. And it's because I'm still in that building phase and I'm working with, you know, people that are close to me.
Mm-hmm. Um, I, I don't know, maybe I did miss the mark, but they love me and they don't wanna like bring me down right now. Who knows. But, um, yeah, I'm always, you know, I've always been kind of like open to feedback from people. I think that's such an important, important part of, you know, growing a business and, and having a good business and having good operations is, you know, um, taking that feedback and, you know, taking action on that feedback.
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I completely agree. I think that that. The being receptive to feedback is such an important component of this, and I think sometimes knowing how to get trustworthy feedback from the right sources sometimes can be, sometimes a juggle. Like certain people who may not really understand or get what you're doing may not be the right people to get feedback from, but then also.
They could be 'cause they have such an outside perspective. So it's interesting how we get feedback, but I think something you brought up it was so important was like this, like thick skin. And I feel like for those of us who've worked in, like with customers, we developed this and it, it takes a while, but what's important and what stands out to me about that is.
Something I hear from other people who have changed their careers is these, like these things that, these kind of, these golden threads that, you know, we may start out in a completely different industry or job and then we move to something else down the road and we may not know how we're gonna get there, but there are things and skills that we learned in the past that we can carry with us and repurpose.
And it sounds like at this point some of those like. The sales skills or the ability to work so well with customers and really understand their needs and to get back to them and kind of the almost like multitasking abilities that we're so accustomed to when we work with customers on like different channels, for example, or, I don't know.
I just think there's a lot of these kind of golden threads that you have in your current nine to five that you can repurpose and use as you build your business. And I'm curious if there. Any additional ones that kind of stand out about things that you've learned from the past? I mean, even going back to real estate, if there are things that like, you know, you're using now, because we sometimes feel, we may like, you know, sometimes these other careers that we flip to, people are like, gosh, I know nothing about this.
But it's like, wait a second, you know, X, Y, and Z from this job. You know, you can apply it to this. Are there any other things that kind of stand out for you? Yeah, absolutely. Um, I think a huge, um, one is gonna be communication. Um, I, I also worked in mortgage too, and I don't know if like you, if you bought in your own home, but it's, buying a home is such a, you know, your first home especially is such a stressful life event.
And just having that communication from your real estate agent, from your mortgage loan officer, um. Really eases the process for these, these customers, these buyers, these clients, whatever. So I have always prided myself on being a communicative with everybody because it, you know, I like that. You know, I, I mean, just a silly example is like having my dog sitter when I'm out of town.
Communicate with me, send me pictures of my dog, let me know what's going on, and. The over communication, you know, I prefer that over none, you know? Yeah. So I try to find that healthy balance of not bothering somebody, but you know, communicating with them, confirming, you know, their wants and needs and, um, just letting them know, like, keep that.
O open communication with open conversation with me too. Um, it, it helps tremendously because you're establishing more trust in that relationship, you know, between, you know, yourself and the, the clients or the customer. So, yeah. Yeah. Some big one. Oh yeah. That's, that's so huge. That's so huge. Especially like.
Drew, you're on a bunch of different channels too. You mentioned all of the storefronts that you have, but in addition to that, you're all over social media. And so being able to communicate on those channels plus email, plus about all the things, and I think that that is, that's huge. And that is a skill that cannot necessarily be trained, just like.
Overnight, like you have worked your way. So I'd love that you brought that up. And kinda on a totally different topic, Liz, just, you know, sometimes starting something on the side or leaning into this, like kind of these things that really light us up. There can be a bit of imposter syndrome sometimes of like, Ooh, should I do this?
Maybe I shouldn't do this 'cause of, you know, timing wise, it doesn't gonna take too much time. You know, I don't know anything, blah, blah, blah. Was there ever any like, 'cause you're in it right now. So was there anything when you like decided to do this or you know, that you deal with on a regular basis that is kind of difficult or maybe made you question it?
Or does that ever come up for you? Oh my gosh, you, thank you for bringing, asking that because I did, I went through this, so I think it was maybe the end of last summer. I, you know, was following the girlies on TikTok, saw like the trend come back up of the little biker boot trend and I was like, wow. I actually have a pair of really nice Jimmy two biker boots that I've just held onto for all these years.
I can resell these and I can sell these for like, they're just sitting in my closet. I can resell these and make some money. Then I kind of like was like, oh, that's kind of a cool idea, is reselling, like, let me do some, some research on social media about it and then. I found, you know, of course there's always somebody, everybody always has an opinion, right?
So I saw, uh, a few like negative opinions about resellers. Like, oh, resellers are just as bad as these corporations. You know, they are, you know, taking away. From people who don't have money going in thrift stores and just buying it for low and selling it for high. And, and I, so it kind of stopped me from moving forward with the idea.
Um, I was so excited. I even spoke with Zev about it. I was like, I could do this. He's like, yeah, you could totally do this. And then. I just kind of like, let it go. Uh, I was like, no. 'cause I just like, you know, I, I, I was like, well, maybe they're right. Maybe it is not, you know. A noble thing to do. But then, and then also, you know, this is kind of like on another topic, but related, I was, you know, struggling with addiction to, um, you know, to alcohol, drugs, all of that.
So I also. Wasn't as motivated to. Right. I, it didn't really, I was like, oh, it's an idea, but I had no motivation to do it. Um, so then, you know, fast forward a few months later, I got sober. You know, in the beginning of this year I was like, let me revisit this idea. Um, you know, I don't know. I was on some random walk with my dog and I saw.
You know, like a yard sales line or something. And the idea came back in my head like, oh, people, people do this. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with it. People are always gonna have opinions about it and you know. I think going back to your question, you know, the imposter syndrome. Yes, of course. You know, when I first started this I was like, what am I doing?
Like there's so many like super pro resellers out there, you know, like I said, I follow these people 'cause I wanna like emulate what they're doing, you know, if they're successful, I wanna do what they're doing. And once I started to go, I was like. Oh my gosh. Like what am I doing? Well, I'm in it, so I'm gonna keep going.
Um, so I'm not saying that totally went away 'cause it does come up sometimes. I mean, even before we, I got on this, you know, podcast with you, I was like, wow, I'm going on here as like talking about my resale business. Like I just started it. Am I really like. Am I really gonna talk about this on a podcast, but you know, hey, I'm having a great time.
Well, I'm glad you are 'cause I am. And I think that it is just capturing these really early moments are such a huge part of growth. And I also just, I wanna say thank you for sharing so openly about the, you know, your addiction and how you, like this is part of your story and that is such, I don't know, I think.
I think it's such an important component because a lot of the times we don't see how that connects to work and, and I think career flips are really just life flips in general. Like, this is our life. How are we gonna live it? We have so many things going on, the challenging things, the way that we reinvent ourselves, the way we face.
They face these challenges, and so hearing you bring that in and also that you are able to just still make the decision, even though what you read and also the comparison mode that's so easy to fall into on social media like. Gosh, been there, done that. There's so many furniture flippers that do this and they have, you know, hundreds of thousands of followers and I'm like, hi, Jenny, San Diego.
Like I'm pulling furniture off the curb. And it's, yeah, and it's just, it's hard not to, but I think what's so. Impactful about what you're sharing is that you knew these things and you have these feelings and these thoughts, and you still did it, and you have the struggle, and you have the challenges and you still did it.
And so now you're in it and you're absolutely right in the middle of it. Making things happen and learning and open to learning and open to feedback. I just, I really wanna highlight just how, I don't know, inspiring that is because it's not easy to just take that leap and I don't know, I'm just really, really proud that you decided to do that because it's making, you know, it doesn't need to change the world, but you are changing small things in big ways and the ripple effect is.
Huge like that, that's where it lands. Right. And so, just not to change, you know, the topic too much, but I, can you talk a little bit about what exactly you do? Like if I came to you as a client and I was looking for, I don't know, uh, an outfit, like what do you then go look for it? Do you give suggestions?
Can you talk a little bit about the actual curation part and what that looks like for you? Absolutely. So the way that, so the process goes like this, um, you know, uh, you reach out with interest. Um, I do individually curated pieces as well as thrift bundles. So, um, for the individually curated pieces, it's, it's a little bit more casual.
You could just like message me, Hey, I am looking for a penny lane jacket. Hey, I'm looking for a bag that looks like this. And then I just, you know, I'm like, cool, like I'll. Keep my eye out for it. You know, I have several friends that are, you know, looking for individual items and I'm like, okay. They're like, just, you know, keep an eye out when you go to the store.
And for example, one of my friends was looking for like a fun, you know, kind of penny lane jacket. Um, and while it took me like a little bit of time to find it, because it is a curated item, um. And I don't wanna just pick something out just to get it done in a quick time. I wanna pick something out where I know like, wow, this is beautiful and this is like perfect for what this person is looking for.
So I ended up finding it. She had asked me back in February when I started all this, and I ended up finding it a few weeks ago. Um, very similar style and just authentic rabbit fur, just a beautiful jacket. And, uh, she, she loved it. So, um. There's that, uh, side, so the individual curated items, and then the thrift bundle.
So this one is a little bit more formal of a process. So I do have a Google form, um, that's a link in my bio on my, uh, business page. And there's just, um, some questions on there that need to be filled out. So you know what your overall style vibe is, what it is like, are you looking for specific pieces, the sizing of course, you know, if the, you have favorite colors, are there patterns you wanna avoid, you know, or you, all of that.
Just every little thing. I've tried to think of everything that I need. Um, and then of course if there's inspo pics, um, those as well. Um, and then once I receive that, um, each, there's different size bundles. So there's a small, medium, large right now, and there's different prices, um, for each bundle. Um, I do require, um, half deposit upfront before I start the shopping.
And, you know, that's of course to make sure, you know, I am not wasting my time or my money. Um, doing this because, like you had mentioned earlier, it is quite time consuming, you know, um, searching through everything, looking for those specific items. So just wanna make sure, you know, the buyer is serious. Um, and yeah, once I, I do send pictures, I do allow people to kind of swap out, you know, X amount of item.
If they're not really feeling, uh, what I found, and it also helps me too. It helps me like, okay, that's not what they're looking for. This is more so what they're looking for. Um, and you know, of course I can always resell that item too. Yeah. So, yeah, I like, I, you know, I, I want people to be happy. So, you know, there's always, I, I do text communication with my clients, you know, 'cause it's just easier and faster for me to text them like a picture.
Like, Hey, I found this, what do you think of this? And they're like, oh my God, I love that. And so. Yeah, that's kind of it for now. Once I, once I finish the bundle, um, I, you know, let them know what the shipping cost is and before it is shipped out, uh, require obviously the rest of the payment. Mm-hmm. Um, plus shipping and then it's on its way.
That's exciting. You've really worked hard at chipping away at a very. Like personalized process and I, I really, I really appreciate you talking about that because I think, again, just going back to helping other people who are thinking about making a change or starting something on the side, getting so specific about the.
Actual process is so important and you've ironed that out and who knows how that will evolve and grow and shift over time based off of what you learn or what you're like, I don't like doing this. I like that. Or, you know, whatever it is. And that is perfectly okay and acceptable. And I just, I think that that's incredible.
Having those offerings and being able to save clothes from. Going into the landfill or just, I don't know, sitting in someone's closet or sitting at a store in, in a thrift store in la. Like, there's so many good things about what you're doing. And Liz, you know, we've talked about a lot of stuff today.
We've covered a lot of ground. I've asked you a bunch of random questions, but I got one more for you because I think that that, um, you know, people listening in. Can learn a lot from you being in the messy middle. It's not easy. There's a lot of emotions, but you're doing it anyways and you're figuring it out and how that's a great thing.
And it doesn't mean it's easy or gonna happen overnight. So I'm wondering if you know, you're thinking that, or we're kind of picturing that the A person listening right now is someone who might be sitting at their desk, their day job and they're feeling they wanna make a change, they wanna do something.
Different that they really enjoy that lights them up. They wanna start this on the side, but they're scared. Or maybe they think they can't do it or they're just not sure 'cause it might be hard or they may not know what they're doing. What is a piece of advice that you would give to them right now? I, that's a really great question, Jenny.
Um. I would just say just do it. Just do it. Um, you know, taking the action is just, just taking that first step. Like, you know, just taking action on it because once you do it and you've like taken the action step to do it, it's going to make you feel so good. You know, it's going to like you're, your confidence is just gonna shoot up like, wow, I did it.
I don't know if it's gonna be successful. But I am proud of myself and you absolutely should be proud of yourself With that, lean on your friends and family. Lean on your friends and family. And I'm talking real friends. I'm not talking about those friends that are like low key haters. You know, I'm talking about.
Those friends you consider, brothers, sisters, you know, family, um, because they are gonna be like, wow, you, this is so up your alley. This is perfect for you. You know, and they're going to give you that support and, you know, those words of encouragement and, you know, you know, just keep affirming yourself. You know, I, I've got.
My goals. I know we're on a podcast, people can't see this, but I've got my goals written out here. Love that. Send me a picture of that. Yeah, it's, it's on my desk. Um, and I look at it every day and it, it, that really helps me too. So I just, you know, like that one piece of advice is going to be just do it.
Just do it. What do you have to lose? What do you have to lose, you know? Fuck what everybody else thinks. You know, fuck it. If you fail. I mean, I've done so many things in my life. I've tried so many things in my life and I've failed, and I'm just like, I look back on it and I am, I'm not like beating myself up over, I'm like, wow.
I'm, I'm glad I tried it. At least now I know that that's not for me. Yes. Right. I love that. I love that. Thank you, Liz. Thank you for sharing everything today and just letting me pick your brain and being so honest and true about this journey that you're on and right in the middle of, and I think a lot of people will resonate with that advice and who knows what your episode will inspire someone to do.
So Liz. How can people connect with you? Where can they find you? How can they get some curated thrift clothes from you? Absolutely. First of all, before I drop that, Jenny, thank you so much for inviting me to do this. Um, I've had a wonderful time and I do hope that this, um. Episode inspires people. Um, but yeah, uh, you can find me on Instagram at Curated by Liz D.
Curated by Liz D. The Liz Koski is the username for my Depop closet in my Poshmark closet. So that is where you can find me, me there. And then on Curated by Lizzie in the bio. There is the Google form there. And then of course, you know. DM works as well. Awesome. So many easy ways to connect with you. Liz, thank you for your kind words, what you said earlier, and thank you for being here and I just appreciate you so much and hope to see you in real life soon.
You too. We will. Jenny. Thank you so much for having me. Thanks so much for hanging out with me and Liz on this episode of the Career Flipper Podcast. You can find all the links to connect with Liz in the show notes, and if this episode made you feel a little more seen or inspired, I would love it if you subscribed, love to review and shared it with a friend.
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The first step can feel, uh, terrifying, but it can also be the thing that changes everything for the better. So take the damn step, even if it's messy, even if you're scared. What's the best that could happen?